"Ian - must say I'm licking my wounds somewhat after the
correction of just over a couple of weeks ago although the damage
was much less than it could have been. In fact because I had shorted
HSBC my losses on my Long positions were almost cancelled by the
Short on HSBC. The problem was that I was away and took my eye
off the ball. Even so, I was stopped out at a small profit of
£11.00 which is better than nothing although if I'd had
access the chart I'd have closed the deal at around £90.00
profit.
>>>John - see below these brief replies for
more detail.
Lost between £30 and £40 on each of the long trades
I had. I learned a couple of things and that is always valuable.
Firstly I assumed I had guaranteed stops but in fact I hadn't
.>>> see wics archive faqs. GSLs cost too much.
That fact alone would have greatly reduced my losses. Secondly
I must check the prices and charts each day. Thirdly I always
intend having a mix of long and short trades
.>>>or fewer trades if you can't find valid
ones in a particular direction.
I started with around £500 and went up to £800 and
am back to £580 so not doing too bad for six months. Better
than the pension funds! I now want to start trading seriously
having learned those lessons. What do you think is the best way
to grow the fund? If I invest say £2000 to boost it somewhat
is it better to spread the risk and have more trades on smallish
bets or raise the level of the bet?
>>> if you have say 8 trades at the moment on
your current bank, & can find no more, then a bigger bank
= bigger stakes rather than seeking more trades for their own
sake. Don't ever dilute your selection criteria. "
And here's the more detailed reply I gave:
"John -some more re your questions above: it's very hard
to answer regarding 'how much money' because everyone is just
so different in their reaction both to profits and to losses.
What I mean is, that as soon as one 'needs' a profit, emotion
starts to creep in to one's thinking, and rational analysis begins
to take a back seat. When you're 'trading light' and in the early
phases of a trading career, with little financial commitment,
it's easy enough to be totally objective.
Once you're committing more funds with a view to living off the
proceeds, then losing trades really hurt - certainly to begin
with. Equally, winning trades are seen in 'paper profit' terms
and all too often they're closed out by the trader, rather than
having been stopped out by market action - thus making 'more'
on an individual basis, but a whole lot less overall because the
big winners aren't allowed to run and run. This happens to almost
everyone - and the only 'cure' is to back off and trade 'light'
again, then build up slowly to the point where you once more feel
uncomfortable. For some people the path to trading say £30
- £50 per point is quite quick, while for others, it's a
slow and painful process. Your comment about HSBC (you 'would
have closed..for £90..') suggests to me you might find leaving
trades to run, could be a bit difficult for you at the moment.
To make £5000 a month quickly (as you would need to do
ref your other target of £100k in 2 years) from a bank of
£2500 would be next to impossible in practical terms in
my view. You would need to take big risks with large chunks of
the bank and/or hold stop losses way too tight to be able to afford
suitable trades - and almost by definition, you would be 'trading
scared', which never works.
To make £100000 within 2 years would need to be viewed
in the light of the above remarks. Yes, it's possible, but it's
improbable from a starting bank of £2500.
To make £5000 from a starting capital of £2500, over
maybe 6 months or so, would be a much more manageable initial
goal - but I still prefer to see people express goals in 'points'
rather than cash. Once you know you can reasonably confidently
take around 200 nett points consistently each month from the markets,
it's much easier psychologically to apply more and more cash to
the exercise without worrying too much about the losers.
I have a guy who started experimenting with a £2000 bank
and who did very well, doubling it over 4 months or so. The next
time I heard from him, he was seeking my help because everything
had gone terribly wrong. It turned out he had inherited £300000
or so and he (prudently in his mind) increased his trading bank
to £100k, in the 'certain knowledge' that trading would
then make him rich. He emailed me when his bank was below £50k
- and in a nutshell, the problem was 100% psychological - he couldn't
stand seeing 'small' losing trades costing him maybe £1000
- £2000, and when he had a £1000 winner, he would
close it out and grab the profit. He began seeing trades purely
in 'cash value' terms, and his emotions (being unused to the bigger
bank) got the better of him. (He's OK now, all being well, and
trading from a bank of £10k while he gets used to ignoring
cash values. Then he'll move to £20k but if he feels worried,
he'll come back down to £15k - and so on. 'Psychology' is
what almost everyone fails to take account of.)
Now I guess the foregoing might seem less than encouraging, but
I wouldn't want to mislead you. The only way forward is 'step
by step' in this game - but you may be assured I'll help as much
as I can."
Onward then to today's charts and first we'll look at 'sells' on
HMV, then we'll examine what might be about to happen to the German
DAX index - again, I hope these may help those who have some concerns
overall regarding 'sell' trades.
All the best then until next weekend, when all being well WICS
should be online by late Saturday evening 24th March.
Ian.


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