To: David
1. JJB. As everyone will (no doubt) have been telling you today,
the price dipped when the founder got rid of a whole lot of his
shares.
My question is: no doubt you will have seen founders doing this
many times in the past. In your experience, does it tend to depress
the share price only temporarily, or to give the price a more
permanent set back? Depends entirely on the reason. He
just raised £50m for something & that could mean nothing
adverse – or it could be bad news. The chart will tell us.
2. Live entries -v- placing orders.
It dawned on me the other day that I’ve got too much in
the habit of making live entries only – with the result
that I’ve missed a number of potential trades. I must think
more about placing orders. So, can I ask for a bit of guidance:
- of the entries you make, what percentage (roughly) are made
live, and what percentage are done by orders you place?>>>>95%
or higher orders
- assuming you like to have 12 open trades running at any one
time, how many pending orders will you allow yourself:>>>>
depends on no. open. If say 8 open, I look at maybe another
6 – 8 orders & that will likely = 12 filled in due course.
If 12 open, maybe 4 orders. Not an exact science & I lose
no sleep over it.
- around 12, on the basis that they might all get filled at once
and if you have too many you’ll be using up too much of
your bank
- substantially more than 12, on the basis that some won’t
get fulfilled, and if you get 12 trades open you can then cancel
the outstanding orders?
3. The psychology of trading in high-price shares.
The other day I opened a buy trade in Aquarius Platinum. It had
got above its high and I reckoned it was pushing on up.
I bought at £1297.>>>dodgy! 1301 better
by far. If I’d used either the 25 or 45 DMA, the
Stop Loss would have been at 1123 – a 174 point gap, which
I thought rather a lot. (The spread-bet company resolved this
by automatically setting a tighter SL, which I decided to leave
in place>> also dodgy. If you ‘know’
where it should be, closer = probable stopout.). The
intraday movement was also sizeable, e.g 70 points.
After I opened the trade I have to confess I started feeling
a bit apprehensive about it - even though the size of my bet was
quite modest –
i) because the high price meant there was a long way down (it’s
like a cliff: it’s scarier looking off the top of a high
cliff than a low one);
ii) because a day or two later the share dipped;
iii) because – especially when it dipped - I wasn’t
altogether happy about the SL being so tight. I was tempted to
move the SL further out, but told myself it is one thing never
to do>>> but you had it too tight to begin with,
which = ‘don’t take the trade’..
So, after it recovered, I gave in to the temptation to take a
small early profit at 1323. I felt quite relieved I had. >>>
best thing to have done. I made a deal that I
wouldn’t kick myself if the share continued going on up
(which it has now done, after a bit of a triangle).
I guess that it’s always easier, psychologically, to stick
with a trade once it’s got solidly into profit. But I just
thought I’d ask you:-
What would you do with a high priced share, and a big gap down
to the DMA? Would you
(a) set a tight stop loss, based not on moving averages but on
some other criterion?
(b) or look at a shorter time-frame than a day, and use moving
averages based on, say, hourly movement, to set the stop loss?
(c) - disregard the high price
- look at the price solely in percentage terms
- look at the pattern made by the share and the DMAs, and set
the SL by the DMA, just as if it were a low-medium priced share;
– but bet only a small amount per point?
It’s not going to surprise me if you say "you know
the answer, you’ve already given it in (c)" !! >>>
you took the words out of my mouth. - but it
would be helpful to hear a word from on high.
Now the main reason for having reproduced the above email is contained
in David's final two paragraphs, where first he sets out three potential
answers to his question about higher priced shares, and then he
answers (correctly) his own question in (c) above. It's that kind
of constant self - questioning that works so well in the trading
environment, and I strongly recommend that we all get into that
habit! I talk to myself all the time - but the guys in the white
coats don't have my address, thank goodness.
Anyway, I need to go out now and teach some manners to the snowboarding
fraternity, so that's plenty for this weekend, and we'll talk again
next time. All the best till then,
Ian.
PS - due to a very large number of requests, I have asked my webmaster
to add a (subscribers only) forum meantime to the WICS archive page.
The URL is www.trading-the-easy-way.com/forum
and your WICS user name and password will allow you entry. Once
in the site, you'll need to hit the 'register' key and set up a
user ID and password for yourself. Please be very aware that the
facility is for YOU to use as you wish, subject to all the obvious
protocols in terms of 'normal politeness' etc. I do NOT intend visiting
it myself very often and will probably do so only if someone highlights
a post that could be deemed offensive in some way - in which case
the culprit will be instantly and irrevocably banned if I too consider
that offence has been created. This will not become a 'public' forum
- the trading world is full of them and is by no means the better
for that fact - the objective here is 'exclusivity' for my subscribers
and a chance for you guys hopefully to be able to help each other.
The only bit of very serious trading advice that I would give you
regarding the use of forums, is that NEVER should you be tempted
to 'trade by committee' nor should you ever unquestioningly accept
someone else's opinion - not even mine. Only YOURS matters! Anyway,
this is just experimental for now and we'll see how it goes. If
it turns out to do more harm than good, it will disappear - simple
as that - but hopefully it will enable some constructive discussion
to move your trading skills forward.


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